"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
- Bayleaf
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"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
https://www.thelocal.fr/20211119/tax-wa ... 4iTp80H8Q0
"Many long-term residents were surprised at how simple the process was and how few supporting documents were needed – but this was a deliberate choice by French authorities, intended both to make the process simple for their own administrators but also to ensure that vulnerable residents – such as pensioners on low incomes – were not incorrectly denied the right to stay in a country that had become home."
Unfortunately, this process was then abused by some second-home owners who profited from the easy process to obtain their "best of both worlds" card.
They might be regretting that abuse now, and quite rightly so!
"Many long-term residents were surprised at how simple the process was and how few supporting documents were needed – but this was a deliberate choice by French authorities, intended both to make the process simple for their own administrators but also to ensure that vulnerable residents – such as pensioners on low incomes – were not incorrectly denied the right to stay in a country that had become home."
Unfortunately, this process was then abused by some second-home owners who profited from the easy process to obtain their "best of both worlds" card.
They might be regretting that abuse now, and quite rightly so!
- Bayleaf
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"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
Another link stating the penalties!
https://demarchesadministratives-fr.cdn ... es-risques
"Consequences of falsely applying for a WA RP Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Residency Permit (up to €650,000 & up to 15 years prison, if all of the things below happened).
● Lying to Administrative Services 24 months in prison & €30000 fine. https://demarchesadministratives-fr.cdn.ampproject.org/...
● Use of fraudulent documents for administrative services - €45000 fine & 36 months in prison https://www.service-public.fr/particuli ... its/F31612
● False documentation to obtain a CdS. 60 months in prison and 75 000 fine https://www.demarches.interieur.gouv.fr/.../risque-t-on...
● Failure to make a tax declaration as a legal and fiscal resident. Depends whether the tax office thinks it's a mistake or deliberate. Large fines for the later and a possible majoration of 80% of taxes due, 60 months in prison and up to €500,000 fine https://www.service-public.fr/particuli ... its/F31451
● Consider also fines for false declaration for property taxes , non declaration of overseas property for possible wealth tax. Non declaration of uk bank accounts , up to 10000 euros per account per year"
https://demarchesadministratives-fr.cdn ... es-risques
"Consequences of falsely applying for a WA RP Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Residency Permit (up to €650,000 & up to 15 years prison, if all of the things below happened).
● Lying to Administrative Services 24 months in prison & €30000 fine. https://demarchesadministratives-fr.cdn.ampproject.org/...
● Use of fraudulent documents for administrative services - €45000 fine & 36 months in prison https://www.service-public.fr/particuli ... its/F31612
● False documentation to obtain a CdS. 60 months in prison and 75 000 fine https://www.demarches.interieur.gouv.fr/.../risque-t-on...
● Failure to make a tax declaration as a legal and fiscal resident. Depends whether the tax office thinks it's a mistake or deliberate. Large fines for the later and a possible majoration of 80% of taxes due, 60 months in prison and up to €500,000 fine https://www.service-public.fr/particuli ... its/F31451
● Consider also fines for false declaration for property taxes , non declaration of overseas property for possible wealth tax. Non declaration of uk bank accounts , up to 10000 euros per account per year"
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niemeyjt
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"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
I guess that there may also be health cost issues, were they to fall ill whilst in France - would the EHIC replacement cover someone claiming to be a permanent resident?
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Nomoss
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"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
Enough to send a few scurrying back to Surrey or thereabouts.
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niemeyjt
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- Bayleaf
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"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
I guess if they fess up, that they knew they were fraudulently applying, the fine may be less ....!
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curtis
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"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
I have a Titre de séjour. Presumably that is the new name, or is there a carte de séjour as well.
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Pathca
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"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
And that’s why I wouldn’t have dreamed of doing it
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niemeyjt
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"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
My new permit is a Titre de Sejour as well - so maybe that is the standardised term.
- p4psb
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"Tax warning for second-home owners with French CdS
They are one and the same. The correct term is Titre de Sejour, what you physically get is a Carte De Sejour.
