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#21 Post by exile »

Just one point about bigger dishes - the bigger they are, the more accurate you have to be with the alignment. I managed to align a 60cm dish just by watching the TV screen. With a 1m dish you might have to buy one of the gizmos that check signal quality and help with the alignment.

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#22 Post by Pachapapa »

@exile
Dish alignment; for a one metre dish your reception beam can be considered a coherent long cylinder of 1m diameter. Approximately three times larger than for 0.6m dish. And as a plus you are further South and closer to satellite.
The problem of adjustment is related to your diameter selection..... A weaker signal footprint.

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#23 Post by ihatew0rk »

Pachapapa, do you mean it doesn't matter about the size (ooh matron) if I'm further north? I'm confused now, sorry!

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#24 Post by exile »

Pachapapa wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:04 pm @exile
Dish alignment; for a one metre dish your reception beam can be considered a coherent long cylinder of 1m diameter. Approximately three times larger than for 0.6m dish. And as a plus you are further South and closer to satellite.
The problem of adjustment is related to your diameter selection..... A weaker signal footprint.
Not as described to me. The bigger dish has a shallower parabola relative to the smaller one. This means that alignment is more critical. It is a bit like catching water from a fountain. Much easier with a glass than a bigger soup plate where a lot will splash out unless you get the angle of catch just right.

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#25 Post by Pachapapa »

ihatew0rk wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:25 pm Pachapapa, do you mean it doesn't matter about the size (ooh matron) if I'm further north? I'm confused now, sorry!
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The closer you are to UK the stronger the signal so a 60cm dish will be sufficient. In contrast the use of a large dish implies a southerly french location.

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#26 Post by Pachapapa »

exile wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:35 pm
Pachapapa wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:04 pm @exile
Dish alignment; for a one metre dish your reception beam can be considered a coherent long cylinder of 1m diameter. Approximately three times larger than for 0.6m dish. And as a plus you are further South and closer to satellite.
The problem of adjustment is related to your diameter selection..... A weaker signal footprint.
Not as described to me. The bigger dish has a shallower parabola relative to the smaller one. This means that alignment is more critical. It is a bit like catching water from a fountain. Much easier with a glass than a bigger soup plate where a lot will splash out unless you get the angle of catch just right.
No I disagree with you! :D
Raindrops and microwaves do not have similarity as to properties.
Believe me I checked it with Schrödingers cat.
Put it another way a big fat broad searchlight beam will have more chance of illuminating the Messerschmitt. :clap: :clap: :clap:

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#27 Post by beejay »

Large dishes are harder to align than smaller ones.

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#28 Post by Pachapapa »

Interesting discussion for small and large axially focus parabolic dishes.
But today all dishes under 100cms diameter have an offset focus where the reflection surface is a circular portion of a larger paraboloid. Offset dishes due to the LNB support arm being apparently visible making setting of azimuth and elevation particularly easy.

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