PAINT FOR FULL SUN
- Loup-garou
- Posts: 553
- Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:41 pm
- Location: 52 & 71
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
We had the doors to one of our barns painted professionally four years ago but, currently, they are a disaster.  We received assurances at the time but some tradesmen will say anything, won't they?
Does anyone have recommendations for any french paint products (primers, undercoats and in particular top coats) that will stand up to day long full sun? By "french" I mean any product readily available here. I have trawled the internet searching but anything that claims to be up to the job seems to be sold in the US.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
			
			
									
						Does anyone have recommendations for any french paint products (primers, undercoats and in particular top coats) that will stand up to day long full sun? By "french" I mean any product readily available here. I have trawled the internet searching but anything that claims to be up to the job seems to be sold in the US.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
- 
				exile
- Posts: 2527
- Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:57 pm
- Location: Auvergne Rhone Alpes
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
Sorry but no.
We applied a ,paint "guaranteed" to last 8 years. Like you after 4 it was a total disaster and was looking bad after 2. We complained only to be told that the guarantee only applied at sea level. Since we live at altitude where the uv is twice as strong as sea level, no chance.
We either repaint every year or go for shabby chic. Laziness favours the latter.
			
			
									
						We applied a ,paint "guaranteed" to last 8 years. Like you after 4 it was a total disaster and was looking bad after 2. We complained only to be told that the guarantee only applied at sea level. Since we live at altitude where the uv is twice as strong as sea level, no chance.
We either repaint every year or go for shabby chic. Laziness favours the latter.
- Sparkle
- Posts: 1929
- Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:01 pm
- Location: 53 Mayenne
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
This is what we use on our exterior woodwork - cant say how long it lasts as we tend to redo all the woodwork when it looks a bit shabby - not to posh it up but for protection from the sun.
https://www.v33.fr/produits-d-exterieur ... rieur.html
			
			
									
						https://www.v33.fr/produits-d-exterieur ... rieur.html
With this hand, I will lift your sorrows.  Your cup will never be empty, for I will be your wine.  With this candle, I will light your way into darkness.  With this ring, I ask you to be mine.........The Corpse Bride
						- Blaze
- Posts: 5147
- Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:06 pm
- Location: Ille et Villaine (35)
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
We've had a similar experience as Exile at our old place.  The "guaranteed" paint just doesn't last whatever it says and however well prepared the woodwork is. We tried all different makes and none did as it said on the tin.
Again, like Exile, we favoured the shabby chic look, more in keeping with an old building
			
			
									
						Again, like Exile, we favoured the shabby chic look, more in keeping with an old building

- RobertArthur
- Posts: 2331
- Joined: Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:10 pm
- Location: Nièvre
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
@ Loup-Garou, when we bought our house in the Nièvre in 2002 it had been renovated by an archtiect. Also responsible for all the projects carried out by the Préfecture in Nevers. He knew what he was talking about when he advised us to stay away from French paints, he preferred Tollens in those days. Today I still stick to Sikkens, Flexa and Wijzonol. Sikkens, if I remember well, had once a PR campaign with a text like this: What is good enough for the Royal Yacht Britannia should also be good enough for you. Also available in France today.
There are however exceptions: I painted the huge grange doors (facing south) of one of my neighbours with a French no name paint (Burgundy-Bordeaux red / rouge Basque), they had bought at a vide-greniers for un prix inbattable. Must have been more than 12 years ago, still in good condition. About 312 meters above sea level.
			
			
									
						There are however exceptions: I painted the huge grange doors (facing south) of one of my neighbours with a French no name paint (Burgundy-Bordeaux red / rouge Basque), they had bought at a vide-greniers for un prix inbattable. Must have been more than 12 years ago, still in good condition. About 312 meters above sea level.
- Loup-garou
- Posts: 553
- Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:41 pm
- Location: 52 & 71
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
Thanks everybody - hopeless case it would seem.  Unles-s-s-s, RA could you ask your mate if he has any left in the tin?  
			
			
									
						
- RobertArthur
- Posts: 2331
- Joined: Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:10 pm
- Location: Nièvre
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
@ Loup-Garou, when finishing the job, there was only one centimeter paint left in the last tin. I'm afraid that even several blows on the tin lid with my Stanley Bluestrike hammer don't guarantee eternal life. I fully understand that this message doesn't make your day, sorry.
Next steps: this is/was the original paint (Burgundy red) as advised by monsieur l 'architecte in 2002:
TOLLENS Elastotop Satin et Brillant "Grand Totem 97" 1013-G
I'll get the Wijzonol pictures, also one of the lower cost childs in the Sikkens family, as soon as the photo website picr.de is in the air again. Maintenance going on right now.
			
			
									
						Next steps: this is/was the original paint (Burgundy red) as advised by monsieur l 'architecte in 2002:
TOLLENS Elastotop Satin et Brillant "Grand Totem 97" 1013-G
I'll get the Wijzonol pictures, also one of the lower cost childs in the Sikkens family, as soon as the photo website picr.de is in the air again. Maintenance going on right now.
- 
				Headers
- Posts: 702
- Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:43 pm
- Location: 47
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
We are right in the middle of ‘paint the volets ‘ project. The volets are facing south east, west and south west so get a load of sun and wether. We last did them in 2012. The paint had gone powdery to the touch but only peeled on the top and bottom edges of the volets. We are using the same paint again. Farrow and ball external wood paint with primer. They say it’ll last 5 years. We won’t be doing this job again ourselves.
			
			
									
						- Hotrodder
- Posts: 3082
- Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:31 pm
- Location: Brittany 22
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
For a natural wood finish I have had incredible durability with the products recommended in Sparkle's link.   I don't have experience of coloured finishes but I would give them a try if there was nothing else recommended.  I would avoid any UK products for exterior wood exposed to the intense sun encountered in southern France.  I would avoid Cuprinol even if it was free.  Sadolin's products last well but are hard to find here.
My opinions are from years in the trade but they are still only opinions.
			
			
													My opinions are from years in the trade but they are still only opinions.
					Last edited by Hotrodder on Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
									
			
						On my headstone it will say:  Please switch off mobile phones.  I'm trying to get some sleep.
						- 
				Headers
- Posts: 702
- Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:43 pm
- Location: 47
PAINT FOR FULL SUN
I have used peinture-destock.com a couple of times. They have some very good deals from time to time and have some Sadolin products
			
			
									
						




