Blackouts and owning an electric car in Switzerland or Germany.

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#21 Post by Hotrodder »

And as usual, the monecowatt notifications require a mobile phone number. :(
On my headstone it will say: Please switch off mobile phones. I'm trying to get some sleep.

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#22 Post by niemeyjt »

Biloute wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:49 pmGood news for Parisians: there is always a hospital, a police station, etc... not far from your apartment and you will never be cut off!
Keep smiling!
I guess that depends on whether they switch off an entire area or if they just turn off individual properties via Linky.

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#23 Post by RobertArthur »

Turn off conpletely? Probably limiting the maximum power, stepping down from higher puissances souscrite to 6 kVA in single-phase. One of the smart grid options, LINKY as the .messenger boy.

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#24 Post by Biloute »

According to all the articles I read, the government plans to cut off the electricity in a "sector", ie a group of users supplied by the same power line or the same transformer (?). It was not said that certain users could be cut off individually (or switched to reduced power) by means of the Linky, which would be technically easy. It is true that at the beginning of the Linky, many people were very suspicious and that some continue to refuse it for fear of Big Brother. However, it could be a solution without great inconvenience for users: it would suffice to warn them by short message or email to stop all radiators, ovens, etc... from 09:00 to 09:15 for example. Many but short outages in turn would cause little inconvenience to users and keep the network safe. It could even be automated. I think that the government has not yet wanted to use this possibility either not to show that it can do it, or for fear of a rebellion like the yellow vests... But, well, we are used to the fact that that the government easily changes its mind with always the same conviction. Remember the masks: they are useless (in fact because the stock was zero), then they are recommended, then they are obligatory, then you could have a fine, then we don't talk about it anymore...
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#25 Post by RobertArthur »

The Parisians once again in a special position, most favoured city approach. Business as usual, already for many centuries, reading an article in the SUDOUEST:

" Une partie de la population pourrait être concernée par des délestages, mais certaines zones considérées comme critiques sont épargnées. C’est notamment le cas de Paris ou de la Corse. "

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#26 Post by ajm »

I was a young engineer with our electricity board. When we had the power cuts in the '70s my neighbours thought that we never went off because of my job. Never told them we were fed from the same circuit that fed the TV transmitter.

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#27 Post by Nomoss »

Biloute wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:40 pm According to all the articles I read, the government plans to cut off the electricity in a "sector", ie a group of users supplied by the same power line or the same transformer (?). It was not said that certain users could be cut off individually (or switched to reduced power) by means of the Linky, which would be technically easy. It is true that at the beginning of the Linky, many people were very suspicious and that some continue to refuse it for fear of Big Brother. However, it could be a solution without great inconvenience for users: it would suffice to warn them by short message or email to stop all radiators, ovens, etc... from 09:00 to 09:15 for example. Many but short outages in turn would cause little inconvenience to users and keep the network safe. It could even be automated. I think that the government has not yet wanted to use this possibility either not to show that it can do it, or for fear of a rebellion like the yellow vests... But, well, we are used to the fact that that the government easily changes its mind with always the same conviction. Remember the masks: they are useless (in fact because the stock was zero), then they are recommended, then they are obligatory, then you could have a fine, then we don't talk about it anymore...
A bit like the alcohol testers to be carried in every car.

A sensible use of Linky would be to suppress the signal usually used to enable off-peak use of water heaters and other high power installations.
Unfortunately this would give objectors to Linky even more reason to refuse it, but I think they should be charged more than the current few Euros for not reporting their meter readings, or eventually have their subscribed potential cut to a minimum until they get in line with the rest of the country.

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#28 Post by niemeyjt »

Well, living up to the mantra that there is no situation a politician cannot make worse . . .

Germans split as last three nuclear power stations go off grid

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65260673

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