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Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:45 pm
by Hotrodder
Most of us know that modern cars are stuffed full of computerised gismos that in some cases even help the car to be more efficient but few people realise there are privacy issues as well.

https://www.techspot.com/news/100064-mo ... zilla.html

Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:19 pm
by niemeyjt
Of course - they now are connected to the Internet for updates and downgrades. Not to mention e-Call (if it survives 2G switch off).

Next step - per mile billing? remote kill? remote disable if your social score drops too low?

Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:22 pm
by Antonia
My first thought is why would Nissan want to collect information on my sexual activity and secondly, how ?

Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:31 pm
by niemeyjt
Maybe they want to decide whether there is any market for introducing an estate version of their cars where the rear seats go flat?

Maybe the sensors that tell if someone is in a seat for the seat belt warning are dual-purpose?

Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:39 pm
by exile
Or possibly monitoring of the springs and dampers when the car is stationary.

Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:31 pm
by Bayleaf
Another great reason to never own a new gizmo orientated car! :lol:

Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:31 am
by MAD87
The mind positively (or negatively) boggles.

Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:05 am
by Hotrodder
Another element to this technology is that some manufacturers are building lots of goodies into their cars but only activating some of it depending on the price you pay. A variation is allowing certain things to be switched on later remotely if you agree to pay a monthly subscription for it. Auto industry lobbyists are pushing for laws to prohibit owners or independent garages from altering the on board computer systems to activate or enhance anything that is not agreed by the manufacturer. The internet connectivity is the key to the control they have over the product after the customer buys it. The legal argument put forward is that tampering with factory settings could be a safety issue. Consumer rights groups say that it is much more of a profit issue.

Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:41 am
by niemeyjt
Yes. BMW's heated seats and heated steering wheel were what I had in mind - https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-62142208

And with the monthly payment option - if you don't pay presumably they will remotely disable the "feature".

Modern cars and privacy

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:03 pm
by Hotrodder
Tip of the iceberg, wait and see. 8-)