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#1 Post by MAD87 »

Poor young Séb! They (the self-serving politicians) didn't give him a chance. Last night he announced his cabinet, this morning he slammed the door behind him.
I can't see any option now but an election - parliamentary or presidential? I suspect the latter.

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#2 Post by Blaze »

What could he do if the far left and far right won't budge ? I think he genuinely wanted to find a way out of this mess but it's far too deep-rooted.
It's going to become a battle between LFI and the RN with middle of the road socialists and republicans not knowing where to go. Macron has seemingly lost more and more support but you can never be sure what's going to happen at an election particularly with people voting against instead of voting for.
LREM won't get a clear vote unless there's a change at the top .... even then ....

LFI and his Trots are using the unions to stir unrest and despite MLP's desires to "soften" the image of the national front .... ooops .... RN .... there are many who shudder at the thought of either party getting in.

So who will Macron choose now ? And what about the budget ????

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#3 Post by Biloute »

I'm afraid the situation won't improve, even if Macron dissolves Parliament again or even if he resigns !
Our current Constitution (created by De Gaulle in 1958) no longer works. It was designed for a country roughly divided in two: Left and Right. Generally, there was an absolute majority in Parliament, even if it was 51% vs. 49%... If the President was on the same political side as Parliament, laws were passed easily. If he was on the other side, he chose a Prime Minister from the same side as Parliament, and they more or less managed to coexist by making compromises so that France could be governed.
Today, France is divided into three: Left, Center, Right, with roughly 33% each, and it is impossible to have an absolute majority in Parliament ! The problem is further complicated by our two-round elections, which allow two politicians who basically disagree on everything to collude during the election to block the third one. This is what happened during the last legislative elections (when Macron dissolved Parliament): Macronist candidates withdrew in favor of far-left candidates, and vice versa, to block the Rassemblement National, even though they had the right to remain in the second round.
A single-round system of the "first past the post" type would prevent this, but it's too late to apply it to the likely next legislative or presidential elections, as the Constitution would have to be amended first.
Demain est le premier des jours qu'il nous reste à vivre: profitons-en ! :D

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#4 Post by MAD87 »

It's depressing - I can see France being put sous tutelle by the EU, with all that that implies. Then the sparks will really fly!

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MAD87 wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 9:55 am It's depressing - I can see France being put sous tutelle by the EU, with all that that implies. Then the sparks will really fly!
Everything leads me to believe that Macron's personal ambitions lie in the EU: he is not interested in France. During his presidency, he has worked tirelessly to divide our country in order to make it ungovernable, to sell our industrial flagships abroad, to open the floodgates of immigration to destroy our culture, to make us slaves to the European Commission, the ECHR, etc. His goal is, in my opinion, to become the Emperor of a Europe in which France would be nothing more than a small department.
Demain est le premier des jours qu'il nous reste à vivre: profitons-en ! :D

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#6 Post by Blaze »

@Biloute I agree, a 2 party system doesn't work any more, particularly when you have an extreme left and an extreme right - a lot of people will want something between the two.
I don't agree that Macron has divided the country, nor has he worked to make it ungovernable. That's far too simplistic ! One person who is far more responsible for stirring unrest is our Trotskyist friend JLM. He encourages the CGT to join manifestations for no other reason than to show a presence whatever the cause.

I agree that a first past the post system could be better than the current system : I've never understood the logic of a first round, followed by a second round where people vote reluctantly for someone in order to prevent someone else from winning. A single voting system might make people think more carefully who they vote for in the first place ....

The European Commission seems to be run to its own satisfaction, but with 27 countries all with their own ideas and identities, how on earth is it going to get them all to agree ? It does seem to be a place where many politicians want to end up to advance their own ambitions.

Another point of yours I agree with, is that having a president and a parliament of different side is a recipe for disaster. But the difference between the French President and the British monarchy is that the French president is political, not just a head of state who doesn't interfere in the running of the country. Germany's President is political but with no executive power and therefore its parliament should be easier to run. How many people know the name of the current German president ?!

If only people went into politics with a genuine desire to do something for their fellow countrymen rather than themselves .....

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#7 Post by Bayleaf »

Oh dear, he's taken the lettuce record from Truss ....
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