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#1 Post by hughnique »

24 hrs in police custody last night told the tale of a youngish adult male living with his family, I think somewhere in Bedfordshire. He was alerted one night by his cctv at 2 or 3 youths mincing up his driveway and breaking into his garage, where he had a trials bike he was selling, he had it advertised on Facebook Marketplace, and later on revealed he had disclosed his postcode to a "potential buyer", who he never heard from again. Anyway, he charges out the front door, and subsequently gives chase to these scroats, who have escaped on a motorbike in his Mercedes 4x4, inevitable happens, and he is arrested for GBH, as the 2 oiks on the bike have crashed into a parked car and have life threatening injuries. When interviewed he was compliant with all the police questions and expressed his regret at contributing to the injuries caused to the burglars. Fast forward a few weeks and one of the invalids reports to the police station for an interview, with clever solicitor in tow, from the first question, "no comment", and that was repeated for the next hour. Police checks on the lad's background reveal they are serial offenders and have been for several years, the other passenger on the motorbike was unable to attend for an interview, because of the seriousness of his injuries, BTW the motorbike they escaped on was stolen from London the previous evening. A couple of weeks later, in a police stop, a shiny BMW is examined, and guess what, the 2 herberts from the motorbike crash, are in possession of that, this includes the - too injured to attend the station kid. After another delay, the trial is done, the man who chased them down the road received 22 months in prison, the three travelers involved in the burglary from his house, / break in, received suspended sentences and community service, as it was deemed their injuries would make it uncomfortable inside, now the imprisoned man whose wife terminated her pregnancy, as she realised she could not cope with a newborn, have had to up sticks and move out of the area for fear of reprisals. The judge told him he should not have taken the law in to his own hands, and called the police to deal with it, that in itself is a bloody joke.

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#2 Post by Blaze »

The judge was right in that he should not have taken the law into his own hands. You only have to read the stick the police get if they "give chase" to a vehicle for any reason. The man could have caused a very serious accident driving a big car like that in anger and it was very likely that he was speeding.
If nothing was actually stolen, why did he not report it to the police ? The CCTV may well have given a good description of the culprits.
Did the man have a good lawyer? If he can afford a Mercedes 4x4, he can't be short of a penny or two - are his house and garage alarmed ? Was his house burgled as well as his garage being broken into ? That's not been made clear.

From what you've written above, Hughnique, the man acted wrongly however one might feel sorry for him. As for the wee scrotes, they get legal aid and unfortunately they often end up with better lawyers than the prosecution ones.

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#3 Post by hughnique »

It's about time change was brought about all these bloody adolescents running riot, making decent citizens life a misery. I know you are biased but "report it to the police", that in itself is a joke as has been revealed on much of the media of late, more chance of getting an ambulance quicker, and I don't know what if anything was stolen, and neither did he at the time, and he did spend a vast amount of money out of his own pocket on a barrister. I suspect the scum broke speed limits on their stolen motorcycle. This is bloody anarchy in its simplest form, the lunatics taking over the asylum, it's about time we had a strong pair of hands in the government and not all these human rights and goody goody merchants.

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#4 Post by Pathca »

It went to court in September 2019 apparently
No matter what the situation if there’s a serious crime in progress it will get a response,although patrols might not be that close they will respond.The police offered all the evidence to the CPS ,who then made the decision to charge,he then went to court and was found guilty,a judge then sentenced him
There was a recent case in the UK where a man in the street was attacking (and seriously injured ) a female a passing motorist drove at him and killed him,but saved her. The motorist was arrested ,although not remanded in custody, once all the evidence was gathered he was released without charge

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#5 Post by niemeyjt »

@Blaze - maybe you have been out of the UK for too long. Police don't investigate thefts or burglaries - they just dole out a number for your insurance and send you a letter closing the investigation and offering you contact points for victim support organisations.

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#6 Post by Pathca »

They may not physically attend every job due to cutbacks,but all reported are recorded and collated and some definitely are investigated

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#7 Post by MAD87 »

I have sympathy with all the views above, but highnique, if this is a press report let me assure you that they're rarely accurate. There's usually something buried somewhere which changes the complexion of the story, not necessarily something that's made public either.

What is "a strong pair of hands"? What would you do?

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#8 Post by Pathca »

@MAD87 it was the Programme ‘24 Hours in Police Custody ‘ shown on UK television last night.The youths whilst little Sc rotes were badly injured in the crash one requiring the air ambulance. I wonder what the response would have been if an innocent member of the public had been injured/ killed

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#9 Post by Blaze »

niemeyjt wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:28 pm @Blaze - maybe you have been out of the UK for too long. Police don't investigate thefts or burglaries - they just dole out a number for your insurance and send you a letter closing the investigation and offering you contact points for victim support organisations.
What's changed ? If he'd contacted the police to register the attempted break-in, it would have been logged and he'd receive a number for his insurance. Instead, he acted recklessly and is now paying for it. He'd have done better to have fitted an alarm to his garage or even floodlights - not many thieves will hang around if those go off.

Agree with @MAD87, there's probably more to the story than meets the eye, which might make it all less sensational ....

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#10 Post by Pathca »

Garage/shed breaks were a major problem a few years ago because they were rarely alarmed and yet some high value property can be stored in them nowadays they do tend to be more secure
No comments interviews are that nothing ,clever about them

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