You’re nicked sunshine

[Pathca]

You’re welcome

[exile]

Yes Charles was also rather wild in his Twenties.

I have a friend who was doing a PhD at Cambridge when Charles was there. He was well known for his interests in farming at the time. You know:
He ploughed the fields and scattered his good seed all around.

But then so were many at that age.

But that does not in any way alter the situation regarding Andy who in the words of Monty Python has been a very naughty boy.
As for Andy tipping off Epstein of various things including allegedly that the EU was about to bail out its banks, if you or I had done that we would have been up before the beak for insider trading faster than a non-existent bead of sweat forming on Andy's brow.

[hughnique]

Talking of banks and bail outs, what was the name of the bank that went down the pan many years ago, was heavily invested in by Pakistanis and Indians as it was giving above market interest rates.

[Blaze]

Andrew was always unable to control his trouser snake and it was bound to come back and bite him one day. It would seem he was naïve enough to believe he was untouchable.

The only sexual accusations against him that have come out seem to be those of Virginia G. Is USI (unlawful sexual intercourse) such a heinous offence in this instance ? (I dread to think how many people could be up before the beak today if every parent of the under age party complained). Yes, she was 17 but seemed to be perfectly well aware of and consenting to what she was doing - there was never any accusation of rape. It may well be that other complaints (if there are any) would only come to light in the unlikely even that Andrew might go to the US.
Whatever people's views are on Andrew's behaviour, he is hardly responsible for the trafficking and other abuses carried out by Epstein. If it were the case, then the responsibility should be shared by anyone that had contact with Epstein and knew what was going on (though many would deny it).

But Andrew's arrest is nothing to do with his sexual antics but because of a desire to make money by doing his friend some favours. Depending what is found, he could end up being a guest of His Majesty for a while.

NB: I know nothing of US law so perhaps USI is considered more seriously there ....

[exile]

US law is complicated and many of the laws are state dependent with each state able to set its own laws. Currently the age of consent is 16, 17 or 18 depending on which state you are in. Then add in the complications of crossing a state border with a minor without both parents consent (usually written) - and I would guess that includes leaving the US for another country.

To show the complexities, a 17 year old could legally fly from JFK without consent (New York State aoc = 16) but not from Newark airport (New Jersey aoc = 18).

I am going to take issue that Andrew is not responsible for the trafficking. It takes two to tango and the recipient of a trafficked person cannot absolve themselves of all responsibility because they did not personally do the trafficking.

[Bayleaf]

I think it's thanks to Virginia that all this filth is finally coming out - she was just the tip of the whole foul iceberg, whether coerced, traffiked, groomed, whatever. There are now investigations into women (and/or underage girls) being flown into the UK, and whisked away to .....allegedly the former Prince Andrew's residence.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/18/uk/u ... stein-intl

If it puts the wind up those elite who have carried out these heinous crimes, and takes any, preferably all of them down, so much the better. Boys were victims too. A texas ranch previously owned by Epstein is now being thoroughly searched for body remains, from sex games that went wrong? It is also alleged these elite pervs enjoyed dining on some victim remains, but I digress. This is why the whole world is in such a f*cking mess at the moment - those at the top of the food chain have video evidence on others and they're all holding each other to ransom. Why else would someone like Putin/Netanyahoo have such a hold on someone like Trump? Dirty, rotten scum, the lot of them.

[MAD87]

Dirty, rotten scum, the lot of them.

Hear hear

[Blaze]

I am going to take issue that Andrew is not responsible for the trafficking. It takes two to tango and the recipient of a trafficked person cannot absolve themselves of all responsibility because they did not personally do the trafficking.

Perhaps I expressed myself badly. Andrew is far from the only one involved so why is all the blame being laid at his door ? What about all the other rich and influential folk involved - why hasn't anyone brought out complaints against them ? I find it hard to believe that VG was the only person to name names. I would have thought her publicly denouncing Andrew would have encouraged other women to come forward. Were they paid off and threatened if they talked ? Whilst names of victims are being protected, why does this apply to the perpetrators as well ?

Don't think for a moment I condone any of this disgusting behaviour, of course I don't. But this reluctance to release other names and targeting just one person makes one wonder if the truth will ever come out.

[Pathca]

It’s the low hanging fruit isn’t it ,he is easy to hit on . I do think that others have been paid off NDA s etc will have been flying around. If you’re a young girl with not much chance of earning a decent wage and you get offered a life style of comfort what would you do?

[Bayleaf]

Love him or hate him, Jonathan Pie is spot on again - we're on the same page.


Royal Protection Officers referred to Andrew as the Count - oh, hang on, ditch the "o"!