Pathca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:06 am
.... it is mostly Afghans that are there
No doubt fleeing the Taliban. These people left their countries because of repressive regimes, and to them, Europe epitomises peace and freedom. Who can blame them ?
More disturbing is that many of the asylum seekers are fit young men - what happened to the women ? Did they refuse to leave, were not up to making the journey ? Ukraine has shown us that many women don't want to leave, preferring the risks of staying on.
Unsurprisingly, male asylum seekers are perceived as more of a "threat" than women and children.
Reading this thread and the reasons given why these unfortunates leave their own country, I would think there will soon be a mass exodus of Brits to cheaper places like Albania, especially given the current government failures, but then they would also be economic migrants.
The women, children, grandparents, uncles and aunties will follow later, once Abdhul has gained status in the UK, they then come in perfectly legitimately. Afghanistan, amazing how a group of ramshackle mercenaries, driving around in their Toyota gunships, can repel the likes of the US armed forces.
Maybe if the UK Govt. hadn't been bleating about how it's "world beating, the golden land, best country in the world, etc. etc.", over the years, it wouldn't have looked such a promising prospect to so many people?!
https://www.lep.co.uk/news/people/middl ... bs-3607071
I have worked with Imad ,he has done so well the last few months,his language wasn’t brilliant at first but now he is excellent,he says his wife who is an English teacher struggles with the Lancashire accent
Seeing the Daily Mail attitudes of the 1930's a bit too often:
Rothermere and the Mail were editorially sympathetic to Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. Rothermere wrote an article titled "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" published in the Daily Mail on 15 January 1934, praising Mosley for his "sound, commonsense, Conservative doctrine", and pointing out that: "Young men may join the British Union of Fascists by writing to the Headquarters, King's Road, Chelsea, London, S.W."
The Spectator condemned Rothermere's article commenting that, "... the Blackshirts, like the Daily Mail, appeal to people unaccustomed to thinking. The average Daily Mail reader is a potential Blackshirt ready made. When Lord Rothermere tells his clientele to go and join the Fascists some of them pretty certainly will."In April 1934, the Daily Mail ran a competition entitled "Why I Like The Blackshirts" under which it awarded one pound every week for the best letter from its readers explaining why they liked the BUF.
The paper's support ended after violence at a BUF rally in Kensington Olympia in June 1934. Mosley and many others thought Rothermere had responded to pressure from Jewish businessmen who it was believed had threatened to stop advertising in the paper if it continued to back an anti-Semitic party.The paper editorially continued to oppose the arrival of Jewish refugees escaping Germany, describing their arrival as "a problem to which the Daily Mail has repeatedly pointed."
The one thing though I do agree with is serious action needs to be taken against Albanian crimonal gangs and their assisting young men to come over and work illegally producing drugs. However the incompetence of the UK Government makes this very unlikely.
MAD87 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:21 am
Isn't there a labour shortage in the UK?
There is indeed, as was pointed out last night in HIGNFY.
Of course they will not all be able to become nurses and doctors; but there is a huge gap in the number of people to take on care worker jobs or even just picking Brussel Sprouts in a cold wet field in Lincolnshire in December.
As was also pointed out one of the problems is the lack of HO workers to process asylum claims [tongue in cheek on] so perhaps some of these people could do that. [tongue in cheek off]
@hughnique not all of the 5 countries I posted about are bigger than the UK. France, Germany and Spain certainly are. Italy is somewhat bigger but not massively so. Austria is about 1/3 the size of the UK.
However (contrary to some views) size does not always matter. Some parts of some countries are to all intents and purposes uninhabitable.