The evil sides of two countries

[Hotrodder]

I heard on the radio two days ago that a large number of recent desperate refugees were coming from Albania. I am not aware of any wars or mass persecution going on in Albania. But then I don't venture onto Facebook so I am not aware of all the facts. Still begging the question of why people from so many different places have singled out UK over all the rest of Europe. And also the question of what happens to all those inflatable boats and outboard engines that end up on the beach in Kent. Gotta be an earner there for someone. Take 'em back and flog 'em to the trafficers. Once you've got their money call the cops to nab the buggers loading the next lot of passengers. Simples.
If this situation is what the Torys call taking back control I need to go back to school.

[tagh]

UK has no identity cards; it helps!

[DaveW]

In what way?

[DominicBest]

In the Albanian case it appears that Britain has a huge market for drugs and Albanian gangs are big players in that market.

[Quiksilver]

And that is what detention centres are supposed to be about....sorting the genuine refugees and asylum-seekers from the economic 'refugees' and downright criminals. Even 15 years ago the unofficial figures for entry of the two latter were mind-blowing. Where does any country draw the line before sinking under the sheer weight of numbers?

[exile]

Can we please take a reality check on the UK sinking under (propaganda) numbers of asylum seekers.

The top 5 European countries do not even include the UK:

Germany (148,200)
France (103,800)
Spain (62,100)
Italy (45,200)
Austria (37,800)


2021 numbers - as the last full year data available. 2022 might just see the UK entering the first division.

[niemeyjt]

UK has no identity cards; it helps!

They might help if there were consequences for being in the country without one - but we all know that won't happen.

Instead, as with the Blair proposals, it will be a vast state overreach into the private life of innocent citizens.

[ajm]

@ajm One where all people should be able to have basic comforts and assistance where necessary. I don't think the immigrants are asking for too much when they want to be under cover, in a warm place and fed.

Google Stoke Rochford Hotel. It is a grade2 listed building in Lincolnshire and is now occupied by albanians at tax payer's expense.

[Pathca]

If you google it you find out it is mostly Afghans that are there

[hughnique]

The top 5 countries are also significantly larger than the UK and can possibly accommodate an influx of "asylum seekers", but it has to be noted that whatever they are coming to the UK for, once they are granted leave to stay, they then start importing the rest of the family, one wonders what the figures will inflate to then. As has been said Albanian males represent a very large proportion of the immigrants, perhaps they come to see Norman Wisdom films, he was a huge star in Albania, or to disrupt the legal system with their criminal activities. You cannot forget that we have plenty of indigenous crooks in the UK without importing more, and there is a huge number of economic migrants that should be turned around immediately, but then they lose their passport, tell the authorities they are fourteen, when they look about forty. God knows what has gone wrong at Manston, perhaps overwhelmed by numbers.
Surely the powers to be could put someone on a push bike and take a look at all the empty secure industrial units going to waste, which, with a little renovation, could be converted into basic accommodation, whatever is provided it will not placate the majority of these illegal entrants, they set fire to the barracks up the road from Manston, surely it must have been better than sleeping at the roadside on the way from wherever. They need to be processed quicker and turned around if they are deemed to be something other than genuine, but God knows how and where they are going to be repatriated to.