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#471 Post by L Austin France »

RobertArthur wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:46 pm Whatever happend to the station car? Less cubic meters than in a real van, of course, but for shopping, transporting construction materials, a removal aid, very useful. in other words: a functional multi-purpose vehicle.
My 23 yo pug 806 is as good if not better than most estates.
Seven seats if needed for family outings. Remove 1 & it easily takes 6 golfers plus their clubs & trollies. Take out the rear 2 & it'll swallow a washing machine standing up. Remove 5 & it's a real load carrier.
It's a terrific multi purpose vehicle & the main reason I'm hanging onto the old gal as long as I can.

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GN at circuit des Remparts

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Frazer Nash Circuit des Remparts

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#474 Post by curtis »

RobertArthur wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:49 pm @ Curtis, avoid it? Until the lights go out because one EV too much starts charging and blows three knife-blade fuses of 250 amps in an already overcharged grid..... ENEDIS, where are you?
In front of my computer.

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#475 Post by curtis »

Bugattis Circuit des Remparts

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#476 Post by RobertArthur »

@ L Austin France, about your Peugeot 806, please don't rub it in. I still miss my VW Sharan, even with the centre row seats more than enough space (from 256 to 2610 liters max).

To continue, somewhere between classic cars and the taste of the modern consumer. In one of today's newspapers I read an article about the same topic, quote:

A quick trip to a Brico marché or taking ziplock suitcases and bags on holiday: car manufacturers are making it increasingly difficult to carry luggage. Many new car models have less boot space than their predecessors. What's going on?

There are undeniably some trends that confirm that the practicality of cars is becoming increasingly secondary. To start with, you can see this in the rise of non-standard body styles, such as that SUV coupé with its sloping roofline. Such models are more beautiful than practical: the smooth design is clearly more important than the volume of luggage space.

Even with a traditionally typical 'estate car brand' like Volvo, you can see the decline in the boot: the current V90 is 13 centimetres longer than the V70 it succeeded, but its more elegantly lined boot is dozens of litres smaller.

Just pay attention when you look at modern cars from the side: increasingly, you see that the rear end slopes down relatively quickly. This is not only for looks, but also to create the most favourable air resistance possible. This shape minimises unwanted air vortices behind the car.

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#477 Post by curtis »

Back to old cars.

View of the banking at the circuit de Linas-Montlhéry.
Taken inside a Fiat Abarth 850TC.
I raced here when that was still possible (Coupe de l'Age d'Or) but at least there are still limited trackdays

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#478 Post by Hotrodder »

RobertArthur wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:00 pm such as that SUV coupé with its sloping roofline. Such models are more beautiful than practical:
I think the modern perception of "Beauty" has evolved a fair bit if they think any of the SUVs on offer today could be described as beautiful. Most of them are stone ugly to my eyes. The other night mrs.H saw a new Toyota on the telly and exclaimed "God that's ugly!" And what is this SUV crap anyway? Sports Utility Vehicle? So tall if I drove one with any sort of enthusiasm it would probably flip over at the first bend. Utility: how high to lift a heavy load into the back, assuming it would fit. An electric one with a trailer might be as useful as a 20-year-old estate in terms of volume but the range would be laughable.
On my headstone it will say: Please switch off mobile phones. I'm trying to get some sleep.

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#480 Post by RobertArthur »

Not in front of my camera, a nice Porsche 356A (1957}.
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